[CLUG] Re: Cork Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1

Tue Jan 9 13:00:18 GMT 2007

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> Today's Topics:

>    1. FTTH in Cork (Ronan Kirby)
>    2. {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork (Adam)
>    3. Re: FTTH in Cork (Trixter aka Bret McDanel)
>    4. Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork (Ronan Kirby)
>    5. {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork (Adam)
>    6. Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork (Trixter aka Bret McDanel)
>    7. RE: FTTH in Cork (AJ McKee)
>    8. Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork ( John ?'R?ord?n )
>    9. Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork (Trixter aka Bret McDanel)

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:24:01 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Ronan Kirby <ronan at kirby.ie>
> Subject: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701081722440.20362-100000 at craic.sysops.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> Folks,

> Anyone know of anyone doing FTTH in Cork? Magnet are not, but seem to only
> do apartment blocks anyway.

> The first person to suggest Smart looses a nut.

> - R

> ------------------------------

> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:26:07 +0000
> From: Adam <lists at beecher.net>
> Subject: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID: <45A27EAF.9040005 at beecher.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

> Smart.

> Do I win five pounds?

> adam

> Ronan Kirby wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Anyone know of anyone doing FTTH in Cork? Magnet are not, but seem to only 
>> do apartment blocks anyway.
>> 
>> The first person to suggest Smart looses a nut.
>> 
>> - R
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cork mailing list
>> Cork at linux.ie
>> http://mail.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/cork
>> 
>> 

> ------------------------------

> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:27:26 +0000
> From: "Trixter aka Bret McDanel" <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
> Subject: Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: "Ronan Kirby" <ronan at kirby.ie>
> Cc: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <a4d011c50701080927g4187f027iac39e76c7cb1d42d at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"

> nova implied they did it.  oh and I think smart telecom :P  (had to!!)

> On 1/8/07, Ronan Kirby <ronan at kirby.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Anyone know of anyone doing FTTH in Cork? Magnet are not, but seem to only
>> do apartment blocks anyway.
>>
>> The first person to suggest Smart looses a nut.
>>
>> - R
>>
>>

> -- 
> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
> Belfast +44 28 9099 6461        US +1 516 687 5200
> http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you!

> ------------------------------

> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:31:22 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Ronan Kirby <ronan at kirby.ie>
> Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: Adam <lists at beecher.net>
> Cc: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <Pine.LNX.4.44.0701081730350.20422-100000 at craic.sysops.org>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

> On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Adam wrote:

>> Smart.
>> 
>> Do I win five pounds?

> Erm, yes. Yes you do. Hey let's make it 10 altogether!

> ------------------------------

> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:32:46 +0000
> From: Adam <lists at beecher.net>
> Subject: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID: <45A2803E.1030806 at beecher.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

>>> Smart.
>>>
>>> Do I win five pounds?
>> 
>> Erm, yes. Yes you do. Hey let's make it 10 altogether!
>> 
> Excellent. I'll have my man pick it up in the Rolls.

> adam

> ------------------------------

> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:28:00 +0000
> From: "Trixter aka Bret McDanel" <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
> Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: Adam <lists at beecher.net>
> Cc: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <a4d011c50701080928j5304a35dv48f64b9b165159c7 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"

> On 1/8/07, Adam <lists at beecher.net> wrote:
>>
>> Smart.
>>
>> Do I win five pounds?
>>
>> adam

> argh was too slow

> -- 
> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
> Belfast +44 28 9099 6461        US +1 516 687 5200
> http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you!

> ------------------------------

> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:27:23 -0000
> From: "AJ McKee" <aj.mckee at druid-dns.com>
> Subject: RE: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: "'Ronan Kirby'" <ronan at kirby.ie>,   <cork at linux.ie>
> Message-ID: <20070108232006.DA1FE4CC0AE at morrigan.tuatha.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

> www.novanetworks.ie are the only ones I know of.

> AJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cork-bounces at linux.ie [mailto:cork-bounces at linux.ie] On Behalf Of
> Ronan Kirby
> Sent: 08 January 2007 17:24
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Subject: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork

> Folks,

> Anyone know of anyone doing FTTH in Cork? Magnet are not, but seem to only
> do apartment blocks anyway.

> The first person to suggest Smart looses a nut.

> - R

> _______________________________________________
> Cork mailing list
> Cork at linux.ie
> http://mail.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/cork

> ------------------------------

> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:27:13 +0000
> From: " John ?'R?ord?n " <thesraid at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <320c7f9d0701090027o43637275h619845b945ec0bde at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"

> I love Smart man, couldn't rate them highly enough. Check out how well
> they've dealt with my phone line on my blog.

> http://www.thesraid.com/?p=149

> *Sigh*

> John

> On 08/01/07, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/8/07, Adam <lists at beecher.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Smart.
>> >
>> > Do I win five pounds?
>> >
>> > adam
>>
>>
>> argh was too slow
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com     Bret McDanel
>> Belfast +44 28 9099 6461        US +1 516 687 5200
>> http://www.trxtel.com the VoIP provider that pays you!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cork mailing list
>> Cork at linux.ie
>> http://mail.linux.ie/mailman/listinfo/cork
>>

> -- 
> Visit thesraid.com

> ------------------------------

> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:40:11 +0000
> From: "Trixter aka Bret McDanel" <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
> Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [CLUG] FTTH in Cork
> To: cork at linux.ie
> Message-ID:
>         <a4d011c50701090040r22e68e8fpe92ef228386d4e0e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"

> On 1/9/07, John Ó'Ríordán <thesraid at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I love Smart man, couldn't rate them highly enough. Check out how well
>> they've dealt with my phone line on my blog.
>>
>> http://www.thesraid.com/?p=149

> I dont know about here, and your experience suggests that it is infact
> different, but in America there is a practice called 'slamming' where a
> provider will change your service without your consent.  Its far easier
> there, since there are over 1500 long distance companies and many times more
> local ones.

> Generally when a company is caught slamming they face fines, have to pay for
> a 3rd party to confirm that each customer agreed to change their phone
> service before the change can take effect, etc.

> Here it seems that when it happens, based on your experience, you are on
> your own, and there is little you can do.  It also makes me wonder how hard
> it would be for someone with a grudge to effectively get your phone and
> internet shut off just because ...

> I generally dislike additional laws, I think we have enough and in some
> areas too many.  New laws are largely written to keep lawyers employed.
> However, anti-slamming laws are typically a good idea, especially since
> phone and internet are vital to some people, and are going to become more
> important over time not less.

> Perhaps you could start a movement to try to get something passed here that
> would allow for mandatory compensation, fines for the carrier, etc if they
> cant prove that the transfer was authorized.  There are more customers of
> the phone companies than there are phone companies, and if enough of them
> want legislation, the lawmakers usually listen out of fear of not getting
> reelected, which is just how it should be, govenment officials should
> constantly be afraid of not being reelected whenever they do anything.