"John P. Looney" said: > Out of curiosity, can ADSL be done over an IDSN line ? > Kate, who only has idsn. Nope -- as far as I know, the ISDN signalling totally gets in the way of the DSL signalling. If you have a "dry copper pair", ie. a wire with *no* signalling, you could DIY it -- but they're impossible to get in Ireland. --j.