[ILUG] ireland offline 'strike'

[Gavin Henrick]

Quoting Fergal Daly <fergal at esatclear.ie>:

> Malta has ADSL. New Zealand, which is very comparable to us in terms
> of
> population and distribution has ADSL. The OECD report that was discussed
> a
> couple of days ago on this list had us down with Greece and I think
> two
> rundown ex communist states as ommitted from their survey because we
> didn't
> have decent internet access. There is no justification for not being
> able to
> rollout ADSL in major cities at a price comparable to the rest of the
> world.
> Dublin has about two and a half times the population of Glasgow and a
> trip
> to google turns up 4 companies selling ADSL connections in the first 6
> links.
>
Yes, and national rollout was funded by government. With Eircom Floated this
causes a major problem. They have not got the money to make huge infrastructural
investment, and it should come from the government, who have no intention of it.
The company and the people it services were shafted in its floating.


> The problem with the pricing is that the Eircom are trying to
> subsidise
> their retail arm from their wholesale arm. They are doing the equivalent
> of
> (wrong figures)
> 
> 60 (wholesale) + 20 (retail) = 80 (final price)
> 
> when they really should be doing
> 
> 40 (wholesale) + 40 (retail) = 80 (final price)

Perhaps, this doesnt remove the basic reasons that they havent got the money to
support proper rollout, the government made the mistakes back when eircom was
sold off to the now shareholders (sorry, maybe suckers is more apt)

> 
> Eircom gets the same amount of money in either case but competitors
> get
> shafted by the first one and if the ODTR lets them do that then it's
> goodbye
> to any hope of it ever getting any cheaper, faster, more reliable or
> less
> restricted.
> 
> If obeying national and EU regulations makes Eircom unprofitable then
> they
> need to change how they do busines because every other incumbent telco
> in Europe seems to be able to cope with them.

Diff numbers of ppl, diff base infrastructure to work from, and is BT making
money? not the last time i checked :)
> 
> Fergal
> 
>