[ILUG] eircom.net open relay?

[Paul Jakma]

On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Ronan Waide wrote:

> Because I hold the apparently mistaken belief that participants in a
> conversation make use of context and previous statements to
> interpret subsequent statements in light of their determination of
> the speaker/author's intent as hinted by the aforementioned context
> and previous statements.

god you're worse than i am. :)

i did - you seem to be against an ISP's SMTP server(s) relaying email
for connected users that have not specifically authorised in some way,
i'm going by:

"Your original post seemed to imply that anyone connecting to
mail1.eircom.ie should be allowed to send mail to anywhere they
wanted. Subsequent mails were more concerned with people who actually
dial Eircom as their ISP being allowed to do this. A brief independant
test proves that Eircom do not allow joe bloggs at
joe.bloggs.ip.address to relay, so that's marginally okay."

and

"I think an ISP's SMTP server should be locked down to relaying for
its own customers - identified by pay-for dialup accounts, direct
connection (leased line, for example) or SMTP AUTH if the customer in
question is not using the ISP's dialup."

so where does that leave free ISPs?

My more general point, which i was trying to make, is that there are 
far wider issues than just SMTP if an ISP (free or otherwise) cant 
trace users - which makes the SMTP issue fairly insignificant. 

If they can identify them, then allowing full relay to accountable 
users (ie connected/dialed-in to that ISP and AUTH for others) is 
perfectly fine, no?

> Cheers,
> Waider. The fine art of reasonable conversation and all.

regards,
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