[ILUG] Re: [OT] more DSL
vincent at cunniffe.net
Tue Sep 10 09:20:35 IST 2002
Karl Jeacle wrote:
> On Mon 09 Sep 02, 17:46:38 +0100, Vincent Cunniffe wrote:
>>The main problem is trying to get them supporting routed mode :
>>whatever eircom is doing doesn't like that at all. Eircom cannot
>>even get their own equipment running it properly, so you have to
>>run it in bridged mode and use a software PPPOE stack on a
> It's not a question of eircom not being able to do X, Y or Z. If
> you don't configure your equipment to match the eircom service
> offering, then of course it's not going to work for you!
But they cannot even configure their *own* equipment to do it.
Their top-end, €200+ per month service comes with (or at any
rate did up until last week and a poke from ODTR) a mandatory
and very expensive 4-port daisy-chainable SpeedTouch Pro from
Alcatel, which will do everything with an ADSL connection
short of making coffee. It bridges, it routes, it does
firewalling, port forwarding, DHCP, DNS, you name it.
Eircom refuse to support this piece of equipment in any way
whatsoever other than idiot bridged mode, which renders it
functionally identical to the £30 ADSL card someone mentioned
in a discussion last night, or to the far cheaper USB model.
The reason for this, given to me by senior technical staff in
Eircom's ADSL division is that Eircom themselves cannot get this
absolutely standard piece of equipment to work with their
service, and thus will not accept or support anyone else using
it that way.
> The i-stream service uses a very common network configuration of
> PPPoE over RFC1483 bridged ethernet on ATM PVC 8/35. Routing is
> done (as always) at the IP layer once the PPPoE session is up.
I know what it's supposed to be. But they've messed something up,
as their own staff cannot even get the service to work in routed
mode on their own choice of equipment.
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