You chaps have forgotten the Red Hats. As of March or was that April 1st this year... Red Hats are only in it for money! haha. *sigh* -- Bryan O'Donoghue Embedded Software Engineer Europlex Technologies Ltd Clonshaugh Business & Technology Park Dublin 17 Ireland T:+353 (0) 1 2500500 F:+353 (0) 1 2500590 E:bryano at euoplex.ie W:www.europlex.ie