[ILUG] Re: Ubuntu rocks.

[Gareth Eason]

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	   Hi,

	I thought I had made it clear, but obviously not clear enough for the
ilug list ;-)

	Yes - I was specifically and exclusively referring to the 'server'
install of the OS. I agree that the desktop version should not have an
sshd installed (but people can, of course, install one if they like.) I
would question the usefulness of a headless server in this day and age
without ssh access. You can always turn OFF sshd if you don't want it...
but it's a bit difficult to turn it off if you have no way to access the
machine over the net...

	IMHO, YMMV, IANAL, usual disclaimers apply, etc. :-)

	Best regards,
	-->Gar


Niall Sheridan wrote:
| On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin McCullagh wrote:
|
|>The full release of Hoary is apparently due out today though there's no
|>sign.  Then they can start work on "Breezy Badger" --- the alliterate
|>wierdos[1].
|
| Friday. The release was pushed back to get Gnome 2.10.1 included. Main
| is in freeze as of last night.
|
|>>	One thing which did annoy me is the complete lack of an sshd installed
|>>or running.  I was rather annoyed to have to walk back upstairs and KVM
|>>an 'apt-get install openssh-server' before being able to talk to my box
|>>over the network.  Again, I would anticipate that this will be rectified
|>>in later 'server' releases.
|>
|>I certainly hope not.  I for one am most pleased by the fact that a
|>portscan of a vanilla Ubuntu install reveals absolutely zero open ports.
|>As you said, this is a desktop-focussed distro.  This is a system I
give to
|>my parents, girlfriend etc.  While I don't want them to ignore security
|>patching (I particularly like Hoary's new Upgrade Notifier), I also don't
|>want to worry about future remote exploits.
|>
|>There might be some argument to say that the server install should add
it I
|>suppose but if one is configuring a server, it's hardly a big deal to
|>install ssh.  Anyway, not every server needs ssh.
|
| This is just Gareth making vague "WAH!" noises because redhat installs
| an ssh server by default, while neglecting to mention that it doesn't
| just stop at ssh and will happily put things like cups in too. It's safe
| to ignore him :)
|
|>Gavin
|>
|
|
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