[ILUG] Linux/UNIX certification
bigbro at skynet.ie
Fri Feb 18 15:58:20 GMT 2005
I'm doing it as self study (In fairness, I've been using RedHat since
3.something) and have some of the RHCE training material from other
people who have done courses. I intend to sit the exam some time soon,
depending on exam availablility, etc. (which I've not got around to
looking into yet - naughty me :-) )
If you've been using Linux for a significant period of time, I don't
imagine that the exams are going to be particularly challenging,
certainly at the RHCE type level. The RHCE is a practical exam, during
which you build a RH box from scratch, partition the disks, configure ad
start some services, break your partition table or MBR or something and
recover your data using rescue boot, etc. - no rocket science involved
as far as I can see. I'm sure other people on-list have sat and passed
it so they may well have a better insight into it than I.
Hope this helps.
Jonathan Harrington wrote:
> That brings me on to another question. Are you studing for the RHCE on
> your own or are you attending a training course?
> Has anyone done the exam without the course? Is it much harder? What
> books and material do people recommend?
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:45:16 +0000, Gareth Eason <bigbro at skynet.ie> wrote:
>> I think there is some over-optimism on channel regarding this. My
>>attitude would be that if you can get some certification, get it. It
>>almost doesn't matter what it is, provided it's from a reasonably well
>> I would politely suggest that anyone who claims that certification
>>(bits of paper) doesn't matter when looking for a job clearly has not
>>gone looking for a job recently (in the past 3 years, say.) I totally
>>agree that when on the job, it's experience that counts, not the paper.
>>However, to get to the interview where you're talking to people who
>>realise this, and can evaluate your experience in some useful / relevant
>>fashion, you first have to get past HR - and possibly past an agency.
>> As one personal example (I've heard many more similar examples from
>>other people) I was completely refused an interview for a mixed
>>win32/*NIX environment job because I didn't have an MSCE! Despite me
>>pointing out that I had been using MS products extensively since DOS
>>2.10, and having written training courses and trained people who do have
>>MSCEs (and other qualifications which I regard as actually meaningful),
>>the HR Drone was adament that having an MSCE was a requirement for the
>>job. As it turns out, I almost certainly didn't want the job - but
>>hopefully this illustrates the point that 'bits-of-paper'(tm) do have
>>their uses... granted, only because of the lack of understanding in HR
>>and recruitment agencies (or the poor specifications given to
>>HR/agencies by the technical managers regarding employee requirements!)
>> I'm currently working through the material to do an RHCE - not because
>>I don't know about RedHat Linux (and/or many other flavours) - but
>>because it's about a billion times easier to just say to some HR drone,
>>"Yes - I must know Linux because I have an RHCE. Next inane question
>> Best regards,
>>Thomas Bridge wrote:
>>>On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:04:44AM +0000, thomas thumb wrote:
>>>>Looking for a few opinions on Linux/UNIX certification.
>>>>Firstly. If I apply for a system admin job in your company, would a
>>>>cert influence you in any way? Are they a waste of time? Is experience
>>>>all that counts?
>>>Unless the company has a requirement for a particular certification (I don't
>>>know about Linux, but Cisco partners must have a certain number of CCNAs,
>>>CCNPs and CCIEs) certification might get you the interview but would probably
>>>not get you the job unless you could back it up with real life experience.
>>>>Secondly, Which would influence you more, a red hat or a solaris
>>>>qualification? I know people are going to say red hat for a linux job,
>>>>solaris cert for a solaris job but if I had a solaris cert and went
>>>>for a linux job would it help and vice-versa?
>>>Either - I'd expect Unix/Linux skills to be reasonably portable accross
>>>>And thirdly if I went for a unix development job in your company would
>>>>a unix admin cert help my application? Would I be more likely to get
>>>Development is different - if you mean writing code. I wouldn't pay
>>>much attention to system admin abilities in that situation, though having
>>>some awareness of systems practices is still an asset,
>>Irish Linux Users' Group
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