[ILUG] IOL Broadband handing over information.
paul at clubi.ie
Fri Jun 10 13:27:47 IST 2005
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Is that true?
It's hard to say for sure, IANAL, etc..
The copyright act seems to be the law equivalent of spaghetti code -
no clear overriding principle and a maze of exceptions and
corner-cases. However, lawful users have a blanket right to make
transient copies needed for 'viewing or listening':
That would cover DVDs and audio CDs (eg copying from CD/DVD to
buffers or memory in the player and onward).
I've no idea whether that covers ripping of CDs. You could make an
argument that ripping CD to MP3, shelving the CD and then listening
to the MP3s has become common enough, but is it technically required?
Who knows. Maybe there is some wording that allows this, but i've
given up trying to find it (and even if you find it - who knows what
other wording elsewhere interacts with it).
If it doesn't cover ripping, then copyright act is /already/ out of
date wrt usage. A consequence of it trying to legislate by detail
rather than principle i think (at least, in terms of rights granted
> I understand you are saying that one is entitled to make a copy of a CD/DVD
> for one's own use.
> If so, how does one do it?
You have to seperate audio CDs from DVDs. As we established in a
previous discussion here, there is an amendment in effect which seems
to legitimise DRM (which DVDs have a crude form of).
Software on CD is different again ('computer program' as the act
> I'm interested in making a copy of my grand-daughter's Sims-2 CD
> (only the first of the 4 CDs)
You can do that. You have the explicit right to make a backup copy of
There doesnt seem to be any similar 'backup' right for other types of
works in digital form though (eg audio CDs, movie DVDs) - that I can
find at least. :(
> as she frequently covers it with chocolate, toothpaste, etc.
> I tried copying it with Nero, but this failed,
> I assume due to some protective device.
Ah, then you're screwed possibly - depending on what the protection
is. You'd have been fine in 2000, but since then that DRM amendment
has been passed and you are not allowed to circumvent digital access
control - if it's DRM.
> Could I get round this if I were sufficiently clever?
Sure. If it's some kind of DRM, not legally though.
> I've also tried unsuccessfully to copy PlayStation CDs,
> as these seem particularly susceptible to scratches.
> [Crash-Bandicoot will not now get past Level 1.]
Have you tried using Linux and dd'ing the CD? If it's data mode CD
you should always get a full image (if it succeeds) from the drive.
Paul Jakma paul at clubi.ie paul at jakma.org Key ID: 64A2FF6A
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