[ILUG] Best Email Server to Use
watty at eircom.net
Fri Aug 1 12:50:31 IST 2008
Colm Buckley wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Justin Mason <jm at jmason.org> wrote:
>> for what it's worth, we in SpamAssassin prefer the Received: header a la
>> Y! Mail. those headers preserve ordering nicely, indicating the entire
>> trail of transmission from start to end (in reverse order). that's
>> great for our purposes.
> That's fair enough. I'll try to get an answer internally as to why we're
> not using it. It might be something as simple as "the client IP address is
> not available to the backends" (obviously more than one server is involved
> when a message is being constructed), or there may be a design reason. I'll
> look into this next week.
> I don't think there is one in this case.
> I didn't think so. Michele; do you accept this? Flouting an RFC is a far
> more serious matter than adopting a different practise to other providers,
> and I would like you to either substantiate or withdraw the accusation.
> Michele has a point regarding GMail's current status as a spammer conduit.
>> It's being massively abused right now, since the CAPTCHA has been broken.
>> Several very large sites are now blocking GMail; I'll forward details
>> to you off-list.
> We know about the CAPTCHA thing, obviously, and I know that there's a
> significant effort going into addressing that. It's the whole "large
> target" effect. Doing a CAPTCHA which is scalable, hard to crack and yet
> meets accessibility requirements is difficult, apparently.
Why would I want to use a mail service where droids read all my mail?
Why would I want to use Apps that may be less private and less secure
less private than MS's?
I use Google for search out of need. Otherwise why would I deal with
what is really a very very closed doors advertising agency? The only
ilug connection IMO is that Google is a heavy Linux user. But so are
lots of other commercial entities. Don't get me started on Android either.
I'd agree, that for *public email* I'd use a provider and only use my
own mail server as a hidden convenience on my own LAN for multi-pop,
pre-filtering, archiving and forwarding for a family or an office. Don't
have to worry about relaying or other exploits. Behind firewall and no
ports forwarded to it. To "the internet" it behaves like an email
pop/smtp client application. I have a large list of endings that are
executable on Windows/DOS. The home mail server eats them. If people
really want need to send me binary, it's for linux etc without a
forbidden ending so no problem or in a zip. Zips are checked manually to
see if they have a lot of space in internal file(s) name :-)
Remote image loading and remote HTML blocked on Thunderbird mail
clients. Read/Reception ack turned off.
I have two domains of my own for email too (hosted services with
something like sendmail, remote web admind via HTTPS). But I mostly use
three other domains for the bulk of my email with ordinary pop accounts.
I have hotmail, gmail and yahoo mail I never use.
Dons coat and runs away....
... and I run MDaemon 2.7 on my LAN for multipop, webmail, SMTP, POP3,
IMAP and forwarding :-) Since it was released.
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