[ILUG] Linus says Apple FS is "Utter Crap" worse than vista... ; -)

Glen Gray glen.gray at lincor.com
Fri Feb 8 10:38:41 GMT 2008


He's right though, HFS+ is pretty crap by modern standards of a  
filesystem

However, in the context of the types of machines HFS+ i used on, it's  
not something that's holding OSX back for it's target market. My  
MacBookPro doesn't need something like ZFS. However, if I was doing a  
lot of digital media work on a MacPro I'd want something like that.  
And ZFS is being ported to OSX specifically for this purpose.
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On 8 Feb 2008, at 10:21, David Howe wrote:

> If you read the article, the utter crap quote is taken out of context.
>
> Here is the quote:
>
> "I don't think they're equally flawed - I think Leopard is a much  
> better
> system," he said. "(But) OS X in some ways is actually worse than  
> Windows
> to program for. Their file system is complete and utter crap, which is
> scary."
>
> A bit of wordplay going on here!
>
> On Thu, February 7, 2008 8:55 pm, Belgarath wrote:
>> Torvalds was reffering to apple FS namely HFS+ which was created in  
>> 80's
>> and
>> lacks a lot of things that modern Filesystem should have.
>>
>> On Thu 07 Feb 2008 20:50:01 Conor Wynne wrote:
>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/utter-crap-torvalds-pans-apple/2008/0
>>> 2/05/1202090393959.html
>>>
>>> Its even worse than vista in some ways apparently. :-)
>>>
>>> I got a new machine on Saturday, came with vista premium, and its
>>> pretty cool as a media center, but it is rubbish for absolutely
>>> everything else.
>>> It only has 1GB RAM, and this is nowhere near enough to do anything
>>> productive, but that's fine as it is currently only being used as a
>>> media machine.
>>>
>>> I tried booting 64bit linux (xubuntu), but it borked and had an OOM
>>> error. Annoyed I kept vista for a while. 32bit works fine though,
>>> although I am torrenting FC8 64-bit --Does no-one torrent distros?  
>>> Its
>>> taking all week, and still only 25% complete!
>>>
>>> This machine I'm writing on has leopard, and my old machine now runs
>>> RHEL5.1 desktop  (again).
>>> I must say that in power management, linux is still behind OSX, but
>>> ahead of windows. Vista is better than XP for PM - but vista has PMS
>>> everywhere else, like VM utilisation, OMG, how memory hungry is this
>>> piece of crap?
>>>
>>> I am playing with it, as I did buy it, but it is certainly not  
>>> staying
>>> there for long...
>>> Anyone recommend a good media app for linux? Ideally I would like to
>>> use the TV style remote as well, any chance of that working... am I
>>> dreaming?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Conor.
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