[ILUG] Eircom surrenders

[Michael Watterson]

Braun Brelin wrote:
> You know that, and I know that, however, it isn't clear to me that *Eircom*
> understands that.
> given that a lot of P2P is encrypted (and, I predict, a lot more of P2P
> traffic in Ireland will become encrypted rather soon)
> what's to stop Eircom from gettindg lazy and terminating an account for
> "suspected infringing activity" even
> when it's perfectly innocent and above-board?  How much would it cost you,
> the ratepayer, to fix the problem? via legal or
> technical means?
>
> Braun
>   
Because eircom doesn't check. IF the alternative of eircom fighting 
court case and losing happened, this is exactly what we would have.

Instead the Rights Holders are NOT looking at traffic. Their agents run 
honeypots,  connect as P2P clients etc and then they know exactly what 
material is exchanged and encryption or ports used doesn't matter.

Peer Guardian  is  probably useless  protection  for  the  warez & 
copyright song sharers.

> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Michael Watterson <watty at eircom.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Justin Mason wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 14:22, Kae Verens <kae at verens.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> paul at clubi.ie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, john Moylan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I'm sure it's tempting for the ISP's to generalise that all heavy P2P
>>>>>> users are doing something illegal. But I'm sure that there are lot's
>>>>>> of heavy users downloading perfectly legal content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I do backups over DSL. SSH rather than P2P, but still a good few GB
>>>>> transferred every month..
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> I'm sure a lot of us do the same. I have scripts constantly running which
>>>> download websites and "scrape" data from them (public information not
>>>> available via XML or some other sane format), and a lot of my daily work
>>>> involves moving websites between servers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Yep.  as well as doing networked backup, I also sync a small chunk of
>>> my mp3 collection around using Dropbox.
>>>
>>> --j.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> However none of these examples are affected by eircoms deal.
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>>
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Mike