[ILUG] Eircom surrenders

[Michael Watterson]

Gareth Eason wrote:
> Michael Watterson wrote:
> [snip]
>   
>> Instead the Rights Holders are NOT looking at traffic. Their agents run
>> honeypots,  connect as P2P clients etc and then they know exactly what
>> material is exchanged and encryption or ports used doesn't matter.
>>     
> [snip]
>
> 	*sigh* - if only this were the case. It appears (from the PoV of an outsider
> looking in) that a number of different techniques are used to gather
> information on what file sharing is going on, and some further techniques are
> used to verify that the material being shared IS what it says on the time (and
> not, for example, a rather large Word document that I have decided to share
> with a filename of 'SomeGreatMovie.avi')
>
> 	It further appears that these techniques give varying degrees of accuracy, at
> varying times, from varying perspectives. They are nowhere close to 100%
> accurate (though I have not gathered statistics to indicate my assessment of
> accuracy.)
>
> 	To have an agreement, even an implied agreement, that these warnings shall be
> passed on is one thing - but to agree to terminate service based on these
> reports which have provably dubious accuracy is another thing entirely.
>
> 	To suggest that there is some technology which can accurately identify the
> illegal redistribution of content is misleading, at best.
>
> 	Best regards,
> 	-->Gar
>
>
>   
Agreed.
However rightly or wrongly it was believed by many that eircom would 
lose the court case. Possibly eircom thought this hence the settlement. 
The accuracy of ISP based deep packet inspection/traffic analysis, port 
blocking, URL blocking etc is close to zero.
http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-measures-dont-work-report-shows-090129/

The Rights holders Agent's P2P bot client is at least as accurate as 
most copyright infringers methods of finding copyright works via P2P. 
Obviously a honeypot is nearly 100% accurate. (unless it's got your real 
IP how to packets get back)


I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's nothing like as bad as 
people are making out.


read http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=58802979#post58802979
and http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=58819520&postcount=489
again.

We don't yet know exactly how ruthlessly eircom will apply the warnings 
or disconnections.

We don't know at all how all the IPs are gathered. I'd bet the Rights 
Holders keep at arm's length from their Agents



-- 
Mike