[ILUG] ERP software

[Jag Gunawardana]

Like a lot of other ERP users I find that at first I generally need a small
subset of ERP functionality and may use the rest later on. At the moment the
General Ledger is the primary area of interest, but that may change later.
The main problem I've had in evaluating Linux open source offerings is that
many have weak chart of accounts. Most organisations these days need a
greater degree of analysis i.e. not just a nominal code. I liked the look of
the functionality in Compiere and forks like Adempiere. Being able to
analyse entries by cost centre, and project code is exactly what I require.
I've looked at SQL ledger and it doesn't seem to have this level of
analysis.

What's the situation with Adempiere support can it be purchased in Ireland.
I've a project that I need to get up and running and would probably need
some support to get going.



On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Colin Rooney <colin.rooney at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I think the accounting on Adempiere is quite complete (the accounts in
> OfBiz accounts are one of its weak spots).  In Adempiere all ledger
> postings are automatically generated as Documents (sales, shipments,
> invoices, payment, banks recs etc) are processed. Being an ERP it's not
> intended as as "stand alone" solution and I've not investigated this
> area - SQL Ledger is about the only such app I have even seen.
>
> Adempiere is java based so will run on whatever platform you want. Its
> DB is currently restricted to postgresql (which most people use) or
> Oracle which we inherited from Compiere.
>
> It will run locally on the desktop as a swing client or via an ajax web
> client.  The swing client can be deployed via webstart to make
> deployment easy.  We do have some simplistic web based services (such as
> a webstore or services for you customers/suppliers .. can you send me a
> copy of such & such an invoice/shipment/whatever - these can all be made
> available as PDF files to the relevant "business partner" to use some
> Adempiere terminology. There is a online web demo donated by Russ
> Herrold (a co-founder of Centos) who is currently creating an RPM of the
> project for us... @ http://adempiere.pmman.com
>
> A neat feature of Adempiere is the what we call the "Application
> Dictionary" that allows us to modify many features of the application
> without code changes.  Changes made in the AD will effect both the swing
> & webUIs so if you work in the office or remotely (from home?) you get
> the same interface you will see and it will act the same.
>
> Adempiere was created by users & developers of Compiere in 2006 when we
> eventually got fed up with compiere not fixing problems but also not
> accepting the fixes contributed by others (mostly so they could retain
> copyright control of the code).  A typical issue with so called
> "commercial open source" solutions of which postbooks is.  You will find
>  postbooks very limited and you will soon require the functionality of
> the full closed version.
>
> As always if you require more information please ask... I am only too
> happy to help promote Adempiere in Ireland.  I should say that Adempiere
> is not a commercial entity but a community based project... albeit a
> community of businesses and developers.
>
> Colin
>
> Jag Gunawardana wrote:
> > I'm looking at the same issue. Currently evaluating Compiere (and forks),
> > and PostBooks. Mainly interested in the general ledger functionality. I
> > can't seem to find a good stand alone general ledger package. Would be
> > interested in what people recommend in Linux ERP with strong GL
> > functionality.
> >
> > I looked at a number of other commercial ERP packages, but most involved
> at
> > least a windows client. We've just spent quite a bit of effort
> implementing
> > Linux based systems for the whole office. I'd rather not have to run a
> > single windows machine for an ERP client.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Colin Rooney <colin.rooney at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Paul,
> >>
> >> I am one of the founders of Adempiere ERP project, a popular community
> >> fork of Compiere. OpenBravo is another fork., so I know quite a bit
> >> about all these projects.  A big plus to all these is the ability to
> >> customize and still maintain upgrade-ability.
> >>
> >> Also I did a lot of research into Apache's OfBiz for a project that
> >> was canceled at the last so I've not had to actually implement it yet,
> >> but for e-commerce and, importantly, for integration this I think is
> >> by far the better bet!
> >>
> >> OfBiz is a very impressive piece of software and is particularly
> >> suited to online selling, including all the associated back office
> >> work.  Its services orientated design make it very good at interfacing
> >> and there are existing modules integrating with Ebay & Google
> >> checkout.
> >>
> >> Many do find OfBiz very complex internally when they look at it first,
> >> much of the business logic and all of the configuration is done via
> >> XML files so it takes a little getting used to.  And it is by no means
> >> an "Out of the Box" solution however.
> >>
> >> I think you are wise to look for a strong community, but I've not met
> >> any others in Ireland (not yet anyway) that support Adempiere/Compiere
> >> or OfBiz, so at least locally I am not sure how successful that will
> >> be but OfBiz has a strong on-line community as does Adempiere which is
> >> consistently a top 5 project of SourceForge.
> >>
> >> I think the two projects (Adempiere & OfBiz) have things to offer,
> >> both are adaptable but the OfBiz design is, IMO, stronger.  At a very
> >> high level, a key difference is though... while Adempiere offers
> >> immediately all the basics and makes it easy to extend, OfBiz includes
> >> a lot more depth & complexity out of the box (especially in say
> >> picking) but makes it easy to remove that not needed.  And while
> >> Adempiere immediately looks like a finished product OfBiz seems like a
> >> great starting point, but as I said OfBiz is a stronger design and
> >> built for the web from beginning.  It would be my preference given the
> >> few (but I assume key) requirements you set out.
> >>
> >> If you need any further information just ask.
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> >> 2009/10/20  <paul at clubi.ie>:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Don't think this comes up very often on ILUG...
> >>>
> >>> I'm wondering if anyone has used any of the open-source ERP thingies
> out
> >>> there (either locally, or hosted with someone), and if so whether they
> >> can
> >>> recommend them.
> >>>
> >>> Particularly interested in anything that can integrate with existing
> >>> online-retailer "shop fronts" (e.g. Amazon, Ebay shops, Google
> checkout).
> >>> Integration with or support for well-known shipping companie would be
> >> good
> >>> too (e.g. ability to print shipping labels directly). There should be a
> >> good
> >>> community of developers and consultants around them.
> >>>
> >>> E.g. experience with things like Compiere, OpenERP, Apache OFBiz, etc..
> >>>
> >>> Tips (private or otherwise) for good app-hosters for same would be
> useful
> >>> too.
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>> --
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