[ILUG] Our version of SOPA

[Brian O Mahony]

I'm not sure what the government think they are going to accomplish here. This has already recently been thrown out by the European Court of Justice:

http://www.article19.org/resources.php/resource/2872/en/landmark-digital-free-speech-ruling-at-european-court-of-justice

Regards

B 

-----Original Message-----
From: ilug-bounces at linux.ie [mailto:ilug-bounces at linux.ie] On Behalf Of Rory Browne
Sent: 20 December 2011 01:19
To: David De La Harpe Golden
Cc: Irish Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Our version of SOPA



Apologies for typos - sent from a touchscreen....

On 20 Dec 2011, at 00:10, David De La Harpe Golden <david at harpegolden.net> wrote:

> On 19/12/11 18:21, Shane Quigley wrote:
>> 
>> Just saw this on reddit. Its kinda scary and isn't be related to 
>> Linux but people might be interested considering we all used the 
>> internet and live in Ireland.
>> 
>> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2011/1219/1224309259318
>> .html
>> 
>> I'd love to hear your opinions on it.
>>              
> 
> Well, probably pretty stupid and wrong. Remains to be seen what it really says of course.
> 
> Just my own opinion (ILUG is not Pirate Party Ireland 2 after all), but we really should be abolishing or severely reforming copyright as per Pirate Parties etc., and certainly not censoring the internet to try to keep the sheer absurdity of current copyright afloat.

Personally I dont have a supportable objection to the notion of enforceing copyright, provided it's done within the principles of justice, which unfortunatly a lot of our laws ignore.

We must work on the assumption that people are acting within the law until proven otherwise in court. Sites for which there is any legitimate reason for accessing, must continue to be accessable without impedement. I for example like sometimes to visit http://thepiratebay.org/legal, which I don't believe violates any laws. 

Bias must be towards not affecting innocent users. This means that any equipment must be paid for by copyright holders lobbying for such equipment. If the ISPs were to assume these costs, they would be passed on to innocent users. This also means that equipment must not impact the performance or latency of the network in any way.

Unfortunatly this is Ireland where clampers without so much as a degree in law can without even a nod from a judge ( and certainly no opportunity for a defence to be presented ), legally hold peoples cars to Ransom. Chances are that no matter how disgusting such measures are, or how offensive they are to the principles of justice, that our spineless politicians will simply sign them into law.

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