[ILUG-Social] leased line

Francisco Baena francisco.baena at precisionsoftware.com
Thu Feb 8 16:21:09 GMT 2001


Alright folks;
I guess that nothing talk better than numbers, so there we go. If somebody
know where could I find better figures (I'm not talking about spreadsheets
OK?), please let me know. The cost are based in Irish pounds. 

--Paco--

Network Cost Schedule
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Location   Access ceir	eir  Installation  Access     Port       PVC
Total 
							 Rental	Rental
Rental   Rental
Dublin	128k			1100	        1651	1200
2851
Waterford	64k	32k	32k	980	         608	740
600	  1948
Cork	      64k	32k	32k	980	         953	740
600     2293
London	64k	32k	32k	1080	        5308	800	      958
7066
Rotterdam	64k	32k	32k	2583	        2568	3511
7704	  13783
Total				      6723
27941
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cost Schedule for Router Equipment					
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Descripcion of router				          Quantity	Cost

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----	
Cisco 2610 with IP?IPX software and 4 Port ISDN	        1	      2456

Cisco 1601 with IP/IPX software and ISDN interface	  4	      5432

toal cost
7888		
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Descripcion of router							
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cisco 3810 with E1 interface at head office		  1	       4648

Cisco 3810 with 2 * E&M interface at each regional office 4	      16656

total cost
21304		

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From: Francisco Baena <francisco.baena at precisionsoftware.com>
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:30:48 -0000
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Hi Steve;
I'm exactly in the same situation. I've to go to Coventry to configured a
WAN network for my company. The leased line that we are using is a 64Kb,
leased from Eircom and it costs 10K per year. 128kb costs about 16k per
year, so your friend will have to pay a small fortune for a 156kb. Regards,
Paco.

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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:51:27 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stephen Shirley <diamond at skynet.ie>
To: ILUG Social List <social at linux.ie>
Subject: [ILUG-Social] Leaseed liney stuff

Hi,
	A friend of mine is planning on getting a 256k leased line to his
buisness. I was just wondering if any of ye have and experience with the
various companies that offer this in ireland. Uunet is one particular name
that springs to mind (complete with drooling at the thought of the
1000Mbps+ transatlantic pipeline -). Does anyone have any advice? Also
some ballpark figures for everything from 64k to 256k would be cool too.
Ta.

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:38:35 +0000
From: "John P . Looney" <john at antefacto.com>
To: "'social at linux.ie'" <social at linux.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-Social] RE: Social digest, Vol 1 #301 - 1 msg
Reply-To: john at antefacto.com

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:30:48AM -0000, Francisco Baena mentioned:
> Hi Steve;
> I'm exactly in the same situation. I've to go to Coventry to configured a
> WAN network for my company. The leased line that we are using is a 64Kb,
> leased from Eircom and it costs 10K per year. 128kb costs about 16k per
> year, so your friend will have to pay a small fortune for a 156kb.
Regards,

 Sounds like you are getting ripped off. We have a 2MB line for
~15k/year...

Kate

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Subject: Re: [ILUG-Social] RE: Social digest, Vol 1 #301 - 1 msg
From: jm at jmason.org (Justin Mason)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:33:18 +0000


"John P . Looney" said:

> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:30:48AM -0000, Francisco Baena mentioned:
> > Hi Steve;
> > I'm exactly in the same situation. I've to go to Coventry to configured
a
> > WAN network for my company. The leased line that we are using is a 64Kb,
> > leased from Eircom and it costs 10K per year. 128kb costs about 16k per
> > year, so your friend will have to pay a small fortune for a 156kb.
Regards,
> 
>  Sounds like you are getting ripped off. We have a 2MB line for
> ~15k/year...

That sounds insanely low by Irish standards!  Where'd you get it?

--j.

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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:37:54 +0000
From: "John P . Looney" <john at antefacto.com>
To: "'social at linux.ie'" <social at linux.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-Social] RE: Social digest, Vol 1 #301 - 1 msg
Reply-To: john at antefacto.com

On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:33:18PM +0000, Justin Mason mentioned:
> >  Sounds like you are getting ripped off. We have a 2MB line for
> > ~15k/year...
> That sounds insanely low by Irish standards!  Where'd you get it?

 Just lucky that Eircom had installed a 2mb fixed line, instead of the 2mb
variable line previously. They'll get around to changing it to a .5mb line
one of the days though :(

Kate

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to go where you will, even to Mordor, Saruman, if you desire. " 
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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:43:02 +0000
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From: Thomas Bridge <tbridge at vianetworks.ie>
Subject: Re: [ILUG-Social] RE: Social digest, Vol 1 #301 - 1 msg
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At 10:38 07/02/2001 +0000, John P . Looney wrote:
>On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:30:48AM -0000, Francisco Baena mentioned:
> > Hi Steve;
> > I'm exactly in the same situation. I've to go to Coventry to configured
a
> > WAN network for my company. The leased line that we are using is a 64Kb,
> > leased from Eircom and it costs 10K per year. 128kb costs about 16k per
> > year, so your friend will have to pay a small fortune for a 156kb.
Regards,
>
>  Sounds like you are getting ripped off. We have a 2MB line for
>~15k/year...

As you said - you're just lucky and if Eircom ever cop...

Our average price for a 64k line works out at about 6k I think (it depends 
on location a lot though and that may include a basic router).   I'm 
guessing that a 2MB line would work out at around 40k, but I've no idea 
what the cost of the actual data circuit would be, and that'd be the 
biggest variable in the loop.

T.






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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:37:34 +0000
From: Ruairi Newman <bofh at tech-mad.org>
To: social at linux.ie
Subject: [ILUG-Social] DIY DSL :)


The Register has a story on a community in Laramie, Wyoming in the US
who got sick of sub-standard DSL offerings from the telcos and put
together their own network.   Sounds like a good idea here, with no end
to the crap telco offerings in sight.

The original Reg story:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/16732.html

The projects website:
http://www.lariat.org/


Rgds,

Ruairi



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